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Some women enjoy vaginal fisting (having all or most of their lover's hand in their vagina). This is DEFINITELY a case where you should proceed only with your partner's active and ongoing encouragement and within her comfort level. If you two would like to give vaginal fisting a try, then I'd recommend first reading Deborah Addington's book A Hand in the Bush: The Fine Art of Vaginal Fisting. However, the basic technique is as follows: with your hand palm up (and your lover on her back or on all fours) bring your fingers and thumb together to form something that looks like a duck bill. With massaging, and possibly gentle twisting motions, slowly tease your hand into her vagina. If your anatomies allows it, once you get past the third knuckles your fingers will start to gently and naturally curve back to form a fist. The whole procedure takes time and plenty of trust, but the women and men who can take a whole hand vaginally or anally often claim that it leads them to transcendent, ecstatic altered states (read Trust: The Handballing Book by Bert Herrman for a discussion of anal fisting, if that is your area of interest).

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In fist fucking the whole hand (and even the forearm) goes up the rectum. Some people seem to like this: they say it produces very erotic sensations of their internal organs. Although fist fucking can be very painful, it's not necessarily an S&M (sadomasochistic) action; any two people can get into it who want to. You can do fist fucking because the anus and the rectum are so remarkably flexible. You start by bunching the fingertips together and inserting them, lubricated, in the anus. Then you slowly work the fingers up and in, as the anal sphincter relaxes. Finally, if the anus relaxes enough, you'll be able to fit the whole hand (with the fingertips still pressed together). Once in, you can clench the fist and slide your arm in too. Of course, before you can be fist fucked, you must really want it and be able to relax your anus. Fist fucking can be very harmful if it bruises the prostate gland, causing infection, or irritates anal sores you already have, or pierces the rectum itself. If the rectum is broken, it's easy to get peritonitis, an infection inside the stomach cavity, which can be fatal without quick medical treatment. So, if you want to do &x0e%fist fucking, be cautions.

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Skud's vaginal fisting tips

[NB: the hints below apply primarily to vaginal fisting. Use your own sense to figure out which ones don't apply to anal fisting, or consult someone who's more into it than I am.]

0. The obvious one, which everyone has probably already heard: use lots of lube. If you're not swimming in it, if you're not wiping it off the walls and ceiling next morning, you need more. You cannot have too much lube when you're starting out fisting.

1. Go slowly. This should be obvious. Just *how* slowly varies, but if you're having difficulty you should plan to spend an hour or maybe more.

2. Don't try it just after other penetrative sexual activity. The vaginal walls swell up and generally make it more difficult.

3. Position can make a difference. I've sometimes found it easier to use a "doggy" position or just lying on the front with a pillow or two under the hips. Somehow that just makes things fit better.

4. Relax. Breathe. Zone out on the 'dorphins. If you're not used to doing this, learn some non-BDSM meditation techniques as practice.

5. Maintain eye contact if possible. You can get a *lot* of communication happening that way, and even the tiniest twinge will be communicated without words.

6. I sometimes find that a twisting motion works well. Either twist the hand slowly through about 90 degrees while pushing, or just turn the hand in various directions during the process. The vagina stretches differently along different axes, and if you're working constantly with the thumb pointing "up" (i.e. towards the clitoris) which is the most usual position, you won't get any widthwise stretching until you get to that difficult point near the heel of the thumb. Intentionally stretching "across" the vagina in the leadup to this point will make it less traumatic when you get there.

7. Naughty non-politically-correct suggestion: have a drink or two first. This will help you relax. Use your judgment here; I wouldn't recommend getting drunk or even tipsy, and I wouldn't necessarily recommend this for other play, nor necessarily with any partner.

8. If your current partner is male, he probably has relatively large hands. If it's within the scope of your sexuality, you might like to try it with a woman first just to get the hang of it.

9. If you're not using gloves, do. Not just for the safety aspect, but because they make it smoother.


Don't rush it! - start modestly, by using only a couple of fingers....

...once the pussy's nice and wet, prise those lips apart and slip in the other fingers....


...encourage your lady to rub her clit as you slide your thumb inside her pussy...

...be firm, but gentle, as you fist your lady to an explosive orgasm!

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May the Fist Be With You!

Some may ask why this topic would be included as Edge Play. We consider edge play anything a couple would not normally do that could become a dangerous activity if not done without proper preparation and precautions. While this is not edge play to us, it would be too many that will read this. Also, there are inherent dangers involved. This activity should only be undertaken following appropriate research and study. A word of advice: Take your time. Do not rush this type of play. It often takes several sessions and much patience to achieve total insertion.

A friend asked me (Eowyn) a question the other day. This friend knows that I enjoy vaginal fisting. She'd tried it recently and found that she loved it as well. Before she asked her question, I could tell that there was a problem. Her question was, "Has LBO ever cut you? Accidentally? You know...on the inside?" She was rather embarrassed to be asking, but I was ever so glad that she did. Apparently, her partner had a ragged fingernail and it had cut her. The bleeding had stopped almost immediately, but a clot of tissue came out with the blood. This worried me. LBO had never cut me, but I knew that a cut in that particular area had to be quite unpleasant.

I was worried about the risk of infection and told her that she should see her doctor as soon as possible. She said she'd already made an appointment for the next day. I was greatly relieved to hear this. It had already been three days since the accident had occurred. I gave her a bit of advice on future vaginal fisting play and things that she should be prepared to tell her doctor.

I didn't get a chance at that time to ask my friend if this was her partner's first experience with vaginal fisting. It would have answered a few of the other concerns that I had. If he'd done fisting like this before, then the cut was, in my opinion, plain carelessness on his part. LBO always makes sure that his nails and cuticles are as smooth as possible before we engage in this activity. If my friend's partner was a novice at this as well, he may not have realized just how important this really was. Maybe he'd not done any research on vaginal fisting. They may have both been caught up in the moment and it just happened. I'm not really trying to find excuses for why this happened. I'm just trying to find, in my own mind, how it could have happened.

I later found that, yes, it had been his first experience with fisting. Also, her doctor didn't find any infection from the cut, but put her on antibiotics just in case. She didn't have to tell her doctor the whole story. She was able to "get away" with telling her doctor it had only been one finger inside her and not an entire fist. All in all, my friend was very lucky.

This accident prompted a lot of thought and discussion on our part. And in large part prompted the writing of this article. Anyway, the following is our "how to guide" to safely enjoy vaginal fisting. While it may not be all encompassing, we hope it will at least answer the majority of questions you may have and serve as a guide to get you started.


Use Your Fist and I Am Yours!
or
May the Fist Be With You!

By Lord Black Orchid and BlackOrchids eowyn

From OrchidsLair. Copyright © 2001 Lord Black Orchid and BlackOrchids eowyn. All rights reserved. Used with permission at Forbidden Compounds.


There are myths and misconceptions related to and about this kind of play. First, some women may have a difficult time visualizing a fist going into their vagina and it not being painful in the extreme. What they may be forgetting, if they have had children, they have had something much larger than a fist going out of their vagina. Yes, during pregnancy, those bones will separate in preparation for birth; but they never go back to their original position. With each time they give birth, those bones get a little bit wider. Also, women who have never had children can enjoy vaginal fisting. It just takes a little more preparation before the actual 'event'. We'd look on it much in the way of preparing for anal play. The opening must gradually be widened. The bones at the vaginal opening WILL widen a bit if things are done correctly. Some might think that vaginal fisting would make having sex less pleasurable for their partner because the inner muscles would be stretched. This is not the case. The muscles don't get stretched out of shape. In much the same way that a body builder's muscles will become toned and firm, so will the vaginal muscles. (Sort of an added bonus, wouldn't you say?) The main difficulty with vaginal fisting is getting in.

Secondly, the vagina rarely creates enough of it's own lubricant to allow a fist to be inserted comfortably. We have done this once without lubricant and it wasn't nearly as pleasurable for Eowyn as those times that we did use lubricant. As far as lubricants go, you can use either a water-based lubricant, or a petroleum-based lubricant. The water-based lubricants (like KY) are less messy; but they tend to break down and become rather sticky. Petroleum-based lubricants (like Vaseline) work well, but they can promote the growth of cultures within the vagina. Additionally the petroleum based lubes breakdown the latex gloves thus increasing the chance of infection.

We often use fisting as a way of ending playtime rather than the center. Thus the actual performance begins when Eowyn is totally relaxed, and in a high state of excitement. There are a few things you will need to have readily available. First and foremost is lube and lots of it. This is one case when more is good! Make sure it's warm. Now is not the time to go for shock value. That can come later if you're so inclined. Place the bottle (or tube) in a bowl of very warm water so that it can come up to at least room temperature. Not only will it not send the fistee into shock, it makes the lube more slippery. Also a small mist bottle to help control the stickiness is essential. When/if the lube starts to break down, simply mist a little water (make sure it's warm as well!) on your hand and continue. We normally use just plain KY Lubricant. Since it's water based, it tends to break down after a bit and cause friction that, while not painful, can be a bit uncomfortable at times. We are currently on a quest to find a water-based lubricant that does not breakdown quite so quickly and holds consistency without the stickiness. (Any suggestions would be welcome.) We will publish the results as soon our "test" is over. If Vaseline or the like is used, a thorough douching should follow within the next few hours to help prevent the growth of cultures.

We also highly recommend using latex gloves. There are two reasons for this: First, a lubed glove is much more slippery than a lubed hand. Second, there is always the risk of infection when some strange object is poked into areas that are "environmentally" sensitive. As we all know, these types of infections can become extremely difficult to be rid of and can become quite debilitating before you even realize there is a problem. For those that have latex allergies or sensitivities, gloves can be omitted when both partners are absolutely certain and willing to bet their life that all other precautions have been met. (I.e. The nails are clean. There are no cuts on the hands that can pick up or spread infections. Both participants are disease free.) If you're not absolutely certain that these conditions have been met, there are other types of gloves (nitrile or vinyl) that can be used. Make sure you have a couple of clean towels or box of tissue close at hand. Finally, we recommend having bottles of drinking water close by. This is hard work and you can build up quite a thirst!

The pre-flight check....

The first step is a close inspection of the hand to be used. Nails should be clean, short, and smooth. LBO's nails are kept well below the end of each fingertip. They are smoothed and buffed with appropriate emory boards. Do not overlook the cuticles. They should be soft and pushed back to the nail bed with no ragged edges. (You might ask why this is so important if gloves are going to be worn. Ever hear that saying "condoms can break"? Well guess what, so can gloves.) Those with long nails who wish to keep them long do not have to cut them off or abstain from being the 'fister.' Simply take cotton balls and push them under the nails. Make sure that the tips of the nails are padded as well. Latex gloves will keep the cotton in place. Sanitize both hands with commercial grade sanitizer like that used in restaurants or one of the anti-bacterials like Betadyn.

Although it's called "fisting", a "fist" is not actually put inside the body. Personally, only someone intending to punish would attempt to put their fist (with fingers closed) inside another person's body. Instead, the fingers are left straight until they pass into the body. Hold your hand out in front of you, with the palm up. Move the thumb inward to the center of your palm. Now, slide the index and little fingers inward so that they are on top of the middle two fingers. This makes the hand so that it gradually increases in width. There is a natural instinct to curl your fingers as they enter the vaginal cavity; thus a fist is formed almost involuntarily

There are numerous positions available to facilitate ease of entry. The first time we tried vaginal fisting, Eowyn was lying on her stomach with her legs spread wide. This seems to be the best position for us. Many times, she'll pull her legs up so that they're partially under her body. This, in a way, forces Eowyn to keep her legs apart. IMPORTANT: Closing the legs (and thus making it easier to clamp those vaginal muscles even tighter) during this activity could possibly injure your partner.

Any questions? No? Great! Time for taxi and takeoff.....

As we have stated previously, this activity is rarely the beginning of playtime for us, so by the time Eowyn is in the chosen position there is ample motivation, so to speak. LBO generally begins by inserting two fingers inside and begins massaging the clitoris with his thumb. Being somewhat of a sadist he generally adds a bit of nipple play and an occasional smack or two on the bottom to keep things interesting. Eventually he adds a third and fourth finger. At this point all four fingers are inside and in the proper position for insertion. He slowly withdraws his hand, slides the thumb into the center position and slowly begins sliding his hand in and out of the vaginal opening, stopping only when meeting the resistance of the pubis bone.

Now a bit of Biology: for those that do not know or just forgot, the most sensitive area of the vaginal opening is just inside the inner labia. All of the stimulation at this very sensitive area will increase the natural lubrication. This combined with the extra lube will eventually allow your hand to slip inside with little resistance. As the hand slides inside you will have a natural instinct to curl the fingers into a proper fist, with the fingers closed into the palm and the thumb outside the fingers. Just a note here from personal observation. Unless you have no further need for that hand, this is not the time to practice orgasm denial!

(Personal note from LBO) Eowyn once asked, "what does it feel like when you have your hand inside of me?" I've got to say it is a difficult sensation to describe. It is as if your hand is in a very warm and moist balloon. The balloon is filled with something akin to a long ago product called Oooz, and all the air has been vacuumed from the balloon. Each time you flex or extend the fingers you feel this marvelous massaging action engulfing the whole hand. Now, add these sensations to action resembling holding down a bucking horse intent on ripping your hand from the wrist. Throw in the feeling of your wrist in a muffler clamp and someone is using a pneumatic drill to tighten the bolts. Put all these together and you've got a reasonable idea of what it is like as the fruits of your labor pay off.

Unfortunately we must interject another bit of biology here. The funny feeling little cone-shaped thing you feel as you extend your fingers the first time, is the cervix. We'll not bore you with the details, but this little critter is the exit of the birth canal. Some women find it highly stimulating to have this massaged or touched. Others react in a totally different way, something akin to a female Attila the Hun suffering the most terminal case of PMS you have ever seen. Also, the time a woman is in her cycle will determine her reaction. Therefore tread easy!

So what now? There are a few things to keep in mind at this point. First, the vaginal opening should now be sufficiently stretched to allow you to completely withdraw and reinsert your fist. However, remember to tuck your thumb and "point" the fist.

Secondly, remind your partner to take a deep breath every now and again. Sounds silly, but Eowyn tends to take very shallow breaths and hold them. This is not a good time to pass out from lack of oxygen. Thirdly, make sure you are adding lubricant and utilizing the water in the mist bottle. By now, most are breaking down and while the natural lubricant is flowing by the river it will not be enough for extended playtime. Finally, watch your partner carefully for signals of pain. IMPORTANT: If there is pain STOP! When done correctly there should be no pain.

Pressure and strange feelings yes, but no pain.

So there you are, in it up to your wrist so to speak... now what?

(Another note from LBO) Eowyn was also insistent in knowing what pleasure I derived from this form of play. As many of you know, my nickname for her is the million-question sub. Truth be-known, I get very little sexual satisfaction from this play. This is her favorite playtime activity and I get an immense amount of pleasure watching her, as her orgasms are off the ricketier scale. There is one side benefit to me that does generate tremendous satisfaction and pleasure. Eowyn can take almost infinite pain when my fist is inside of her. I am able to smack harder and longer with any toy that can be used with one hand and in close range. As a sadist this is a definite plus and is probably why it is a rather common way for us to end playtime.

(Note from Ewoyn) If you've never been fisted before, you're probably sitting there wondering how it feels. It's actually a difficult sensation to describe. There are several sensations happening at once. First there is the incredible feeling of fullness. Every little movement made by your partner's hand is felt. You can almost feel the contours of the fist inside; feel where the knuckles are. And you know those wonderfully sensitive tissues right inside the inner labia? As your partner turns his/her hand, you can feel the bones of their wrist caressing those tissues. When this happens, my first instinct is to clamp down on that wrist just as tight as I can. This is not a really good idea though, because now that wrist can't move quite so well. The vaginal muscles are stronger than most would imagine. Other than the gspot massage (which we'll get to in a moment), most of the sensation of vaginal fisting occurs just inside the inner labia. Having LBO's fist inside me is a sensation unlike any other. It's a very intense experience, both emotionally and physically.

So what now you asked? There are no right or wrong techniques. Begin by flexing your hand and slowly rotating your wrist or extending your fingers and stoke the soft silky walls. Remember, virtually any movement is going to create exquisite sensations for your partner. Let your imagination be your guide.

We will share a favorite of ours. Carefully extend your fingers, and begin to massage the area behind where the clit would be located. If you move your fingers side to side you should feel a tiny little section that has the texture of sponge. Wahla! The mystical and elusive G-spot! Our favorite position is Eowyn draped across my lap, belly down, with her legs drawn up under her or spread wide. This is a great position for what we are about to describe. LBO will usually spend as much as thirty minutes prior to beginning this activity. By now Eowyn's ass is usually a bright red, the nipples are super sensitive and orgasms are rolling through her one after the other. LBO slowly slips his fist from her leaving all four fingers inside and places his thumb directly on her engorged clit. The area we have identified as the G-spot should feel slightly puffy. He begins to simultaneously massage the clit and the G-spot. This puffiness soon disappears with a tremendous output of moisture, similar to male ejaculation. DO NOT STOP! This activity is the equivalent of milking a penis or prostate gland and the "sponge" will continue to fill and empty for extended periods of time. Be prepared for an explosion of moisture, as it is not unusual to feel it squirting inside and soaking any and everything in sight. Another note from personal experience: Do not try to remove your fingers during a particularly violent orgasm. There is enough pressure being exerted to actually break bones. So relax and enjoy watching your pet, you will get your hand back... sooner or later! (Note from Eowyn:) LBO actually had to tell me to let him go once. I was floating back to earth, enjoying those little ripples of sensation from the aftershocks. I had to have had the biggest smile on my face. Then I hear my Loving Lord and Master chuckling and saying softly, "Precious, you're going to have to let go. I can't get my hand out if you don't." I didn't even know that I was still hanging on.

Landing gear down, approaching the runway...

As with any other activity, aftercare is very important. Not only is this type of play intense physically, it's also a very emotional experience. The first time we did this, it was nearly an hour afterward before Eowyn was truly back among the thinking and functioning. You'll also need to keep an eye out for swelling. Yes, there will be some. The inner labia will feel a bit puffy or "thick" for a few days. It's nothing to be overly concerned about; just keep an eye out to make sure it's gone in no more than three days. There will also be some tenderness for a day or two. But it should not be painful. (Note from Eowyn) It almost feels like the day after you lost your virginity. Not really painful, but you know it's happened.

(Note from Eowyn) We once tried a little experiment to keep down swelling. LBO took a condom, filled it with water, tied it off, and then hung it in his freezer. After our play, he took it from the freezer and ran some water on it (to keep it from sticking to the skin). He left the condom over the ice. Knowing that LBO is a sadist, you can guess what he did with it. I've got to say that, personally, I'll take the swelling any day over the shock of that ice sliding inside me. The shock of it sent me straight to tears. Granted, it did reduce the swelling that I would have normally had. What it also did was send me crashing back down to earth. So, unless you're feeling particularly sadistic, I don't recommend using the popsicle condom method to reduce swelling.

Finally, a few reminders and tips.

Go slow. Taking your time will ensure an enjoyable experience.
Use gloves and lots and lots of lube.
When using petroleum based lubricant you need to remember two things. One, it will break down latex gloves. Two, douche thoroughly within a few hours.
If there is pain STOP!

We're going to take a tip from the Boy Scouts and talk about another kind of preparedness. Let's say that you've met all of the other safety precautions and you've still had an accident of some sort. Maybe, like our friend mentioned above, you've been cut on the inside. Be prepared to tell your doctor how this happened. You might, like our friend, get away with the 'only one finger' story. However, (started to say "on the other hand" but it seemed just too much a pun) your doctor may see through that story right away and insist on the truth. Be ready to calmly tell him/her the truth. But only as much of the truth as he/she needs to know! You don't have to tell your doctor that you've involved in BDSM. (Yes, we know. If you've got marks from other...ahem...activities...then you might have to spill it.) Just be ready to, as calmly as possible, tell your doctor that the cut was caused when - not just one or two fingers, but an entire fist - was inside your body. Now be prepared for your doctor to throw a bit of a fit, which he/she may well do. Doctors can get kind of picky about the things that we put inside our bodies. Again, stay calm and listen to what your doctor has to say. He/she might give you a nice little lecture, along with possibly some antibiotics for your injury, then send you on your way. It may be embarrassing to have to go to your doctor for an injury such as this. But would you rather go now, or after that little bitty cut has become a raging infection?

Also, if there is an accident of some kind, keep your partner informed about its progress or lack of progress. When our friend was injured, her partner was quite upset by the whole thing. He felt a terrible amount of guilt that he'd caused her to bleed and need a trip to her doctor. You may be upset that this has happened to you, but remember that it didn't happen when you were alone. Someone else was there and they will be worried about your well being.

As you've probably already found, we enjoy this activity a great deal. The orgasms achieved are simply off the chart. Also, the fact that Eowyn's pain tolerance seems to be nearly non-existent during this time is a plus that we both can appreciate. Is this activity for everyone? Probably not. But if you are going to try it, just remember to take your time, use lots of lube, keep the lines of communication open, and be as careful as possible. Have fun. Be safe. And may the fist be with you.

Note after the fact: March 3, 2001...As to our search for a better lube, we've found one that we really like. It's called Probe and can be purchased at Good Vibrations. An 8.5 ounce bottle is $9.00 plus shipping, handling, and any applicable taxes. It has the consistency of precum (of all things). It's very slippery, doesn't break down nearly as quickly as KY, and doesn't leave the skin all sticky. We were also sent several samples of other lubes with our purchase and we'll get around to trying them out one of these days. We're frankly enjoying the Probe too much to risk using one of the samples and being disappointed.

- By Lord Black Orchid and BlackOrchids eowyn.

From OrchidsLair. Copyright © 2001 Lord Black Orchid and BlackOrchids eowyn. All rights reserved. Used with permission at Forbidden Compounds.

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